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Montrealer: In reviewing some of the biographical material available
about you - and listening to a CBC interview, I was struck by your sense
of humour. Is this a trait you have always had, or has it developed with
maturity as a writer and with your success?
Atwood: It’s a family sense
of humour - my sister and I laugh at the same things - and a Nova Scotian
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They also like to tell straight-faced lies
to see if they can get the other person to believe them. My best one was
about the nipples on the underside of mother ducks that allow the baby
ducks to feed underwater, like dolphins. (Score: 100.)
The Montrealer: In the recent CBC
interview, you spoke eloquently about your father’s ability to gain an
education and rise out of the 19th century living conditions he grew up
in. Is this where you gained your determination to succeed as a writer?
Atwood: Not particularly. I think
I was just ignorant. I didn’t know how hard succeeding as a writer was
supposed to be. But it’s true that he was confident and resourceful: if
you can’t do it one way, try another. This is useful in writing.
The Montrealer: Your books sell well because
readers relate to the characters and the themes you create. Do you believe
that your readers go to the same places you do in your writings, and that
you are in fact a kind of spokesperson? (I imagine that you have received
feedback from your readers on this.)
Atwood: I don’t think of myself as
a spokesperson except in some of my newspaper writing. But you know what
Pope said: “Wit is but Nature to advantage dress’d, What oft was thought,
but ne’er so well expressed.” (He meant human nature.) If no one
else shares your feelings, you’re from Mars. If everyone else shares them
and says so in the same way, they’re platitudes. I try to steer between
the rocks.
The Montrealer: Of all the awards,
honorary degrees and recognitions that you have received, are there any
that are more special to you - and if so why?
Atwood: They’re all special. The
statue I have on my desk is the Dashiell Hammett - a Thin Man in a suit,
with the head of a Maltese Falcon. It’s pleasingly Egyptian.
The Montrealer: “We have a government
that doesn’t understand the value of culture. A country is more than a
series of economic statements”. Margaret Atwood on CBC radio. Here’s your
chance to voice and expand on that opinion to our readers. Away you go….!
Atwood: Away I went, in the
Globe and Mail last Saturday, and away I will go again, this Saturday.
You are welcome to quote from either!
From the Globe & Mail, Jan. 27:
“The axing of culture abroad is even stranger when you consider the following
facts: The money generated by Canadian-based artists' works that sell abroad
flows into the country and is taxed here, a net gain to the economy. The
arts and creative industries in Europe now earn "more than double the cash
produced by European car-makers and contribute more to the economy than
the chemical industry, property or the food and drink business," according
to The Independent of Dec. 26. There are comparable statistics for Canada
-- some say $40-billion, but even if it were half that it wouldn't be a
number to blow off easily. Or so you'd think.
“So why had the Conservatives taken the
weed whacker to Canadian arts promotion abroad? Was it just part of Finance
Minister Jim Flaherty's shoot-first, ask-afterwards habit -- familiar now
to anyone with money in an income trust -- of slicing the heads off anything
in sight, leaving the mangled stems to be dealt with by later regimes?
“Due to the impenetrability of Fortress
Harper -- colder than the Kremlin, more secret than the Inquisition --
it was unlikely we'd get any answers. But we are still free to speculate,
so here's what I came up with to explain why they did it:
1) Ignorance. The Harperites have no idea
how much money the arts generate.
2) Willed ignorance. They've seen the figures,
but have labelled them "junk economics" in the same way they once labelled
global-warming statistics as "junk science."
3) Hatred. The Harper Conservatives think
artists are a bunch of whiners who don't have real jobs, and that any money
spent on the arts is a degenerate frill.
4) Frugality. There's lots of arts around.
We can get them cheaper from across the border than it costs to make them
here, and if you've seen one art, you've seen them all.
5) Stupidity. They thought they were gassing
a hornet's nest, not poking it with a stick.
6) More hatred. They tried to slash local
museums, until too many people screamed. They've cut the Canada Council
top-up proposed by the Liberals down to a sixth of its size. They've stuck
the knife into the National Literacy Program, perhaps on the theory that
they won't be able to set up a working dictatorship if too many people
can read. And that's just for starters. If these things can be done in
a minority government, lo, I say unto you, what things shall be done in
a majority?
The banner under which the Conservatives
have been ditching stuff that displeases them has been "waste." They're
trashing programs that "don't work." They want things that "get results."
(That went for the environmental plans they once binned, and have now hastily
revivified.) Arts promotion is like supporting entrepreneurs, or local
hockey teams, or school systems. But how do we define "results" in relation
to the arts? And what exactly does "work" mean? Does it mean that money
must flow back in the same year it's invested? If so, the Conservatives
should get rid of all primary education, since no 10-year-old marches right
out of Grade Five and gets an executive job.
“Typically, cultural money is arranged
so that younger artists who need to build their audiences can piggyback
on old poops like me who have already done that. That's how you support
the next generation, and the one after that. Not to do so is truly wasteful.
Yes, you might save a lot of money by killing all the children: You'd cancel
those pesky education expenses. But you wouldn't survive long as a society.
“But maybe the Harper Conservatives don't
want a society in which the arts and the creative industries are important.
Maybe they don't want the jobs in those fields to exist. Maybe, as in so
many other areas of their thinking, they want to turn back the clock to
the good old days -- some time back in the golden fifties, when there wasn't
all this bilingualism and multiculturalism, or indeed any lingualism or
culturalism at all, and most Canadian artists left the country, and those
who remained could be referred to jokingly in Parliament as a bunch of
fruits jumping around in long underwear.
“That's a lot of maybes. But maybes are
all we have in the absence of any coherent cultural policy or even any
explanation for the lack of one. Who was it said that there's more culture
in a cup of yoghurt than in the Harper Conservatives? Let's hope that person
was wrong.
The Montrealer: Can you tell us
what you like to do on down time, such as vacations. What kinds of places
to you like to visit? Are you active on holidays or do you lay low?
Atwood: The Devil comes to
the writer and says: You will be a writer, just as you have wished. There’s
that little matter of your soul, however - it will have to go into the
writing, so you won’t have one left - and there’s one more catch.
What’s that? says the writer.
You won’t ever get any down time.
None? says the writer.
None, says the Devil. Not ever. It will
look to other people as if you do. But while gardening, hiking, sleeping,
or staring out the window, you will still be writing.
Oh, says the writer. Okay. Hand me the
pen.
And the pen was like the Red Shoes…. the
hand that grasped it could never put it down. So it was just scribble,
scribble, scribble, from that day on.
Be warned.
The Montrealer: In addition to being
a prolific writer, you are also politically active. Do you have time for
pastimes or hobbies?
Atwood: (See above.)
The Montrealer: I noted that you
participated in the Key West Literary Seminar earlier this month. In addition
to being a very agreeable place to visit, do you find it creatively stimulating
to interact with other writers during such an event?
Atwood: I got to see some old writer
friends - some of which I hadn’t seen for 20 years - and I met some new
ones and read their books. It’s a laid-back event and very well attended.
Also we watched some birds.
The Montrealer: You have achieved
great success as a writer, and have been able to be a positive influence
and advocate for issues that are important to you. At this time of your
life, do you have a sense of accomplishment? Do you allow yourself?
Atwood: As I kept telling
the Key West folks, Canadians are not allowed to get puffed up. If they
do, some other Canadian is always ready with the pea shooter. So I dodge
such questions.
The Montrealer: This is your
space. Say what you want to your readers (and potential readers) in Montreal.
Atwood: You are lucky to live in
a bilingual city, because the brain scientists have told us that having
two languages makes you smarter.
The Blue Metropolis Montreal International
Literary Festival tales place from April 25 - 29 at the Delta Centre-Ville
Hotel, located at 777 University Avenue (across from Victoria Square at
the edge of Old Montreal). There is a wonderful line-up of writers and
cartoonists, including Barbara Gowdy, Michael Ondaatje, Noel Richler, Margaret
MacMillan (who wrote Nixon in China), and Terry Mosher (Aislin) with well-known
cartoonist Pizaro Jane Urquart. Tickets are available at ADMISSION by telephone
at: 514-790-7245 or 1 800-361-4595 or on their website, www.admission.com.
The Blue Metropolis website is: www.bluemetropolis.org
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